Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 120

05/05/2006 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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SB 206 - DETENTION /I.D. OF PERSONS;CONTEMPT OF CT                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:04:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE  announced that the  final order of  business would                                                               
be CS FOR SENATE BILL NO.  206(FIN), "An Act relating to contempt                                                               
of  court  and  to  temporary  detention  and  identification  of                                                               
persons."   [In members' packets  was a proposed  House committee                                                               
substitute  (HCS) for  SB  206,  Version 24-LS1197\R,  Luckhaupt,                                                               
5/4/06.]                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE  mentioned  that  proposed  amendments  have  been                                                               
distributed and  that a representative from  the Anchorage Police                                                               
Department (APD) was available for questions.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA   referred  to   Amendment  1,   which  read                                                               
[original punctuation provided along with a handwritten change]:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 23:                                                                                                           
       After "person is", insert "for no longer than is"                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE noted that the  proposed House committee substitute                                                               
(HCS) for  SB 206, Version 24-LS1197\R,  Luckhaupt, 5/4/06, ought                                                               
to be adopted before any amendments to it are addressed.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LAUREN   RICE,  Staff   to  Senator   Con  Bunde,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, sponsor, on behalf of  Senator Bunde and in response                                                               
to a question, relayed that  Representative Gruenberg worked with                                                               
the sponsor  on the  changes incorporated  into the  proposed HCS                                                               
and could therefore explain the differences.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG explained  that proposed AS 12.50.201(c)                                                               
now  contains  language stipulating  that  a  person receiving  a                                                               
subpoena may request  the district attorney to move  to quash the                                                               
subpoena; that Section  1 has been rewritten to  clarify that the                                                               
contempt  provision now  also applies  to any  civil or  criminal                                                               
court proceeding;  and that at  the request of the  APD, proposed                                                               
AS 12.50.201(d)(1)  and (2) -  which pertain to  how fingerprints                                                               
and photographs  may be used and  when they shall be  destroyed -                                                               
now also  include the phrase,  "unless it is determined  that the                                                               
person   is    suspected   of   committing   the    crime   under                                                               
investigation".                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:10:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE   [although  no  formal  motion   had  been  made]                                                               
determined  that  there  were  no   objections  to  adopting  the                                                               
proposed HCS for SB 206,  Version 24-LS1197\R, Luckhaupt, 5/4/06,                                                               
as the  work draft, and  so announced  that Version R  was before                                                               
the committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA made  a motion  to adopt  Amendment 1  [text                                                               
provided previously].                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA  explained that he  wants to ensure  that law                                                               
enforcement can  get the information  it needs and  that innocent                                                               
people are not detained for any longer than necessary.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. RICE relayed that the sponsor supports Amendment 1.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON removed his objection.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE asked whether there  were any further objections to                                                               
Amendment 1.  There being none, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:12:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA  made a  motion to  adopt Amendment  2, which                                                               
read  [original punctuation  provided  along  with a  handwritten                                                               
change]:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 14:                                                                                                           
          Delete "reasonable suspicion"                                                                                         
          Insert: "probable cause"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA,  on  the issue  of  detaining  an  innocent                                                               
person because he/she  is a witness, opined  that law enforcement                                                               
should  have  to meet  the  higher  burden  of probable  cause  -                                                               
probable cause  that the  person has  information -  before being                                                               
able to detain him/her as a witness.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:14:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RICE  relayed that the  sponsor feels that Amendment  2 moves                                                               
away  from the  intent  of  the bill  and  would  weaken it;  the                                                               
situations that the bill is  trying to address are often violent,                                                               
emotional,  fluid circumstances,  and  it would  be  too hard  to                                                               
prove  that  one  had  probable  cause to  detain  someone  as  a                                                               
witness.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ANNE  CARPENETI,  Assistant   Attorney  General,  Legal  Services                                                               
Section-Juneau, Criminal Division, Department  of Law (DOL), said                                                               
the  DOL has  a  real  concern with  Amendment  2.   The  current                                                               
standard  for  an  investigative  stop by  a  police  officer  is                                                               
reasonable  suspicion,   and  the  bill  simply   maintains  that                                                               
standard.   At  a time  when a  police officer  is attempting  to                                                               
investigate  what  happened, he/she  should  be  able to  stop  a                                                               
person if  there is  a reasonable suspicion  that the  person has                                                               
information.   Changing the standard  to probable cause  would be                                                               
confusing to police officers.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON relayed that  he would be maintaining his                                                               
objection.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GARA   offered   his  understanding   that   law                                                               
enforcement can't  currently detain  an innocent person  and thus                                                               
Amendment 2 lowers the standard  such that now an innocent person                                                               
can be detained.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI opined  that  for  investigative purposes,  police                                                               
ought to  be able to  stop a person  and ask him/her  what he/she                                                               
knows, based  on a reasonable  suspicion.  To require  the police                                                               
to have probable  cause is too high a burden  and will defeat the                                                               
purpose of the bill, and for  that reason the DOL would object to                                                               
the adoption of Amendment 2.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:16:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken.   Representatives Gara voted in favor                                                               
of Amendment  2.   Representatives Anderson,  Coghill, Gruenberg,                                                               
Kott,  and McGuire  voted  against it.    Therefore, Amendment  2                                                               
failed by a vote of 1-5.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:17:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA  made a  motion to  adopt Amendment  3, which                                                               
read  [original punctuation  provided  along  with a  handwritten                                                               
change]:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 21:                                                                                                           
          Delete "may have"                                                                                                     
          Insert: "has"                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA opined  that  being able  to detain  someone                                                               
based  on   a  reasonable  suspicion   that  he/she   "may  have"                                                               
information would  mean that the  police would be able  to detain                                                               
everybody.  Amendment  3 would stipulate that  detaining a person                                                               
can only  be done  if there  is a  reasonable suspicion  that the                                                               
person "has" information,  so that law enforcement  won't be able                                                               
to simply detain everybody.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE characterized that as a fair requirement.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  said that  as long as  the standard  is reasonable                                                               
suspicion, stipulating "has" is okay with the DOL.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE asked whether there  were any further objections to                                                               
Amendment 3.  There being none, Amendment 3 was adopted.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:18:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG referred  to Amendment  4, labeled  24-                                                               
LS1197\R.1, Luckhaupt, 5/5/06, which read:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 8:                                                                                                            
          Delete "or"                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 10:                                                                                                           
          Delete "(i)"                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 2 - 5:                                                                                                       
          Delete all material and insert:                                                                                       
               "(C)  AS 09.50.010(5) or 09.50.010(10) if                                                                    
      the conduct involves the failure to honor a subpoena                                                                  
        or refusal to be sworn or answer as a witness in                                                                    
      connection with a civil or criminal court proceeding                                                                  
     or an appearance before the grand jury;"                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 7, following "(1)(B)":                                                                                    
          Insert "or (1)(C)"                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 14:                                                                                                           
          Delete "or move the court to quash the subpoena"                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 17, following "identification.":                                                                              
     Insert "The person may also use other rights provided                                                                      
     by law to respond to the subpoena."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:19 p.m. to 2:20 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:20:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG made  a  motion to  divide Amendment  4                                                               
into Amendment  4a and Amendment  4b.  There being  no objection,                                                               
it was so ordered, with Amendment  4a and Amendment 4b reading as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment 4a:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 8:                                                                                                            
          Delete "or"                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 10:                                                                                                           
          Delete "(i)"                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 2 - 5:                                                                                                       
          Delete all material and insert:                                                                                       
               "(C)  AS 09.50.010(5) or 09.50.010(10) if                                                                    
     the conduct  involves the failure  to honor  a subpoena                                                                
     or  refusal to  be  sworn  or answer  as  a witness  in                                                                
     connection with  a civil  or criminal  court proceeding                                                                
     or an appearance before the grand jury;"                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 7, following "(1)(B)":                                                                                    
          Insert "or (1)(C)"                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Amendment 4b:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 14:                                                                                                           
     Delete "or move the court to quash the subpoena"                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 17, following "identification.":                                                                              
     Insert "The person may also use other rights provided                                                                      
     by law to respond to the subpoena."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG made  a motion  to adopt  Amendment 4a,                                                               
which  he characterized  as  merely  making grammatical  changes.                                                               
There being no objection, Amendment 4a was adopted.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  asked  Ms.  Carpeneti  to  comment  on                                                               
Amendment 4b.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:22:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  said that the  DOL had concern with  the language,                                                               
"or move  the court  to quash  the subpoena"  - now  contained in                                                               
Version  R -  because  it  implies that  a  person  will get  the                                                               
subpoena quashed  as long  as he/she  provides his/her  state ID,                                                               
and so  Amendment 4b  removes that  language and  instead inserts                                                               
language clarifying that the person  has other rights provided by                                                               
law with which to deal with the subpoena.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG said  it is  his intention  to allow  a                                                               
person who provides  valid government-issued ID to  file a motion                                                               
to quash  the subpoena  if the  district attorney  won't withdraw                                                               
it.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI said that a person  always has the right to move to                                                               
quash  a  subpoena,  but  the language  currently  in  Version  R                                                               
implies that the subpoena will automatically be quashed.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  argued that  the language  currently in                                                               
Version R specifies  that the person must first file  a motion to                                                               
quash - and then  it would actually be up to  the court to decide                                                               
whether to do so - and that exactly satisfies his intention.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRUENBERG  said   he  would   not  be   offering                                                               
Amendment 4b.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:24:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON moved  to  report the  proposed HCS  for                                                               
SB 206, Version  24-LS1197\R, Luckhaupt, 5/4/06, as  amended, out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying fiscal  notes.  There  being no objection,  HCS CSSB
206(JUD)  was   reported  from   the  House   Judiciary  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      

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